MEP question: does MEP year 6 prepare for AoPS?
#1
Posted 06 March 2012  11:52 PM
#2
Posted 06 March 2012  11:59 PM
Which AoPS? AoPS Introduction to Algebra would be a stretch for most 11 or 12yos, but prealgebra, yes.... just wondering if we'd
need a transition btw. MEP Year6 and AoPS ...
#3
Posted 07 March 2012  01:26 AM
Which AoPS? AoPS Introduction to Algebra would be a stretch for most 11 or 12yos, but prealgebra, yes.
Thanks ... did you go from MEP to AoPS? I'd be happy with prealgebra; but I think we'll get there when Button is 8 or 9. Good grief, I realize I'm going 'round in circles about this; am just not sure what to do with Button. He's in MEP Year 4 now, and is 6 1/2. Now that you mention the 11/12 yos, I remember that I was concerned about starting AoPS b/c of the reading/writing component, but I think he'll be ready for algebra in the next couple of years.
At any rate: that's just what I needed to know! and anything you have to add is very much appreciated.
#4
Posted 07 March 2012  01:59 AM
No, I didn't know about MEP when DD the Elder went through K6 math and AoPS PreAlgebra came out too later for her. DD the Younger is almost through Y2, and I've looked ahead, comparing content to Singapore. MEP Y6 will put the student in at least as good a position as Singapore (I've only seen the US edition, not Standards, so take that with a grain of salt).Thanks ... did you go from MEP to AoPS?
It's not just the readiness. AoPS Introduction to Algebra is *hard* and can't be done in 30 minutes a day. I managed to put off Algebra with DD the Elder until just before she turned 10, but she needs it to move on in science. I'm having her continue with The Art of Problem Solving Vol. 1 while working through Life of Fred: Beginning Algebra. I'll then have her do AoPS Number Theory and Probability & Counting before AoPs Introduction to Algebra, and proceeding from there.I'd be happy with prealgebra; but I think we'll get there when Button is 8 or 9. Good grief, I realize I'm going 'round in circles about this; am just not sure what to do with Button. He's in MEP Year 4 now, and is 6 1/2. Now that you mention the 11/12 yos, I remember that I was concerned about starting AoPS b/c of the reading/writing component, but I think he'll be ready for algebra in the next couple of years.
(pasted from a previous post)
Things we've used in our great algebra putoff:
LoF: Fractions, Decimals & Percents and PreAlgebra 1 (and soon 2)
Venn Perplexors AD (we use them without the predrawn charts)
Can You Count in Greek? (highly enjoyable)
Selected MEP units, including codes and ciphers
It's Alive, and It's Alive and Kicking (found a couple errors in solutions, including one major error)
Logic Countdown, Logic Liftoff, Orbiting with Logic
The Cryptoclub
Becoming a Problem Solving Genius
Challenge Math
Brain Maths (puzzles, from SingaporeMath.com, we found a few errors in the solutions for Book 1, many for Book 2)
Mathematics 6 (Russian Math, selected sections and all starred problems; this text is a thing of beauty)
CWP 5 and 6
Alien Math (working four operations in different number bases)
Piece of Pi (meh)
Patty Paper Geometry (I highly recommend this)
Cryptoclub was a hoot. It takes awhile to get into the heavier math, but it was worth it The workbook is a free download from the linked page, and the publisher will send you the answer key on request. A very little basic algebra is required (e.g. solving systems of equations with two variables). Here are some more short, free codes & ciphers units from CIMT (the MEP folks).
#5
Posted 07 March 2012  02:36 AM
I'm having her continue with The Art of Problem Solving Vol. 1 while working through Life of Fred: Beginning Algebra. I'll then have her do AoPS Number Theory and Probability & Counting before AoPs Introduction to Algebra, and proceeding from there.
We're doing AoPS Vol.1 now. I was going to get ItA, because that was what I had previously planned, but forget that she finished Dolciani in 7th grade, then LOF Algebra. I'm wondering if AoPS Vol. 1 and 2 (along with all the LOFs and a Geometry course by a guy with a vich at the end of his name ) would prepare for AoPS Intermediate Algebra or PreCalculus. Or I might just be optimistic.
#6
Posted 07 March 2012  02:43 AM
Solomonovich?We're doing AoPS Vol.1 now. I was going to get ItA, because that was what I had previously planned, but forget that she finished Dolciani in 7th grade, then LOF Algebra. I'm wondering if AoPS Vol. 1 and 2 (along with all the LOFs and a Geometry course by a guy with a vich at the end of his name ) would prepare for AoPS Intermediate Algebra or PreCalculus. Or I might just be optimistic.
#7
Posted 07 March 2012  03:05 AM
Solomonovich?
That's him.
#8
Posted 07 March 2012  07:08 AM
Things we've used in our great algebra putoff:
LoF: Fractions, Decimals & Percents and PreAlgebra 1 (and soon 2)
Venn Perplexors AD (we use them without the predrawn charts)
Can You Count in Greek? (highly enjoyable)
Selected MEP units, including codes and ciphers
It's Alive, and It's Alive and Kicking (found a couple errors in solutions, including one major error)
Logic Countdown, Logic Liftoff, Orbiting with Logic
The Cryptoclub
Becoming a Problem Solving Genius
Challenge Math
Brain Maths (puzzles, from SingaporeMath.com, we found a few errors in the solutions for Book 1, many for Book 2)
Mathematics 6 (Russian Math, selected sections and all starred problems; this text is a thing of beauty)
CWP 5 and 6
Alien Math (working four operations in different number bases)
Piece of Pi (meh)
Patty Paper Geometry (I highly recommend this)
Thanks for posting this!
#9
Posted 07 March 2012  07:55 AM
#10
Posted 07 March 2012  08:03 AM
THank you for posting that list! We've done some of them, but not all. I am thinking of spending another year on preprealgebra stuff (MM6, CWP56) before heading into prealgebra and these are great resources.
Yeah, I think we're going to take a math sabbatical next year. My daughter wants to try Math on the Menu (it's in the math section of TWTM).
#11
Posted 07 March 2012  10:13 AM
Solutions?That's him.
#12
Posted 07 March 2012  12:54 PM
#13
Posted 07 March 2012  07:02 PM
Solutions?
Well, as I'm feeling optimistic, I'm not going to concern myself with it until later.
I am hoping that between the Instructor's Manual and the text, I will be prepared.
#14
Posted 07 March 2012  07:25 PM
... very dangerous. You go first.Well, as I'm feeling optimistic, I'm not going to concern myself with it until later.
I am hoping that between the Instructor's Manual and the text, I will be prepared.
(and share with me )
#15
Posted 07 March 2012  10:23 PM
Edited by Honoria Glossop, 20 November 2012  10:42 PM.
#16
Posted 08 March 2012  07:06 PM
Dear Moira and Shawna,
(Apologies in advance for the derail, Ana!) I was liking the looks of the Solomonovich book, too, but am scared off by having no solutions....then I found this, by James Tanton:
http://www.lulu.com/...potlight_932947_
There's a second volume of geometry, toothe two volumes amount to nearly a thousand pages, and the author has a PhD in math from Princeton, so I'm pretty hopeful! I wish there were a lengthier sample, but it has definite possibilities, I think.
Anyway, thought I'd toss the link out there for other soontobe geometers....
Best,
HG
ETA: Meant to mention that Tanton has a lot of geometry (among other topics) videos on his youtube channel, so it's possible to get a bit more of a feel for his approach there than is possible from the brief samples at Lulu.
I sent the videos to my oldest so she could see if she liked him (she's quite loyal to Salman Khan, so she's glaring at me )
I did google him looking for more samples of the geometry, but got sidetracked by his other work. I'm thinking about getting a few of the ebooks for my youngest because I really liked those. Thanks for mentioning him.
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