amy g. Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Ds became convicted to become a vegetarian when he was 3 years old. In 12.5 years, he has never wavered-no bacon on christmas morning, no exceptions at his favorite restaurant. I've checked every vitamin and bullion cube for hidden animal products. Well, this weekend, he went camping with an out of state Boy Scout troop that he enjoys. When he got to the campsite, there was no hot water to reconstitute the vegetarian food he had packed. There was limited drinking water so he didn't feel like he could waste any of that on experimenting with his food to see if cold water would even work. In the past, he would have gone all weekend without eating anything except maybe a hamburger bun, or whatever else was available. Dh was also close enough that Ds could have called him, and he would have been happy to bring food. The thing is, Ds did not want to draw attention to the situation because it would have taken time and attention away from the purposeof the camp out. He also did not want to embarrass the adult who forgot to bring vegetarian food for Ds, so he just ate what they had, including meat for the entire weekend. On the way home, they stopped at subway, and Ds voluntarily ordered a roast beef sandwich, so it looks like this isn't a one time occurrence. I really didn't see this coming. It reminds me of when he told me he wasn't going back to Interlochen Art Camp, because he decided he'd rather be a business major than a music major. What??????? He has been brought up to trust himself, and I know he is just doing his teenage job of growing up, but really..... Where is my child, and why is there some strange man living in my house? Edited January 16, 2012 by amy g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmoe Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yup, that's an odd one. Subway has veggie options. But you know, now that I have 3 (soon to be 5!:001_huh:) teens the one thing I've figured out is this is a time to experiment and try to figure out who they really are! And I figure doing it before leaving home while parent back-up is around and in mostly harmless ways is okay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetMissMagnolia Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 you'll have to keep us updated as to if things stay the same or if he goes back to no meat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatmansWife Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well....my first thought is that if this is the worst of your teenage problems....you got it made. :001_smile: Is the rest of your family vegetarian so that this change will be difficult in the family? If not....I'd think it will make things a whole lot easier. But....then again...I'm not a vegetarian so I don't probably have the best perspective on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PentecostalMom Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well....my first thought is that if this is the worst of your teenage problems....you got it made. :001_smile: :iagree: I had a strange man in my house, too. Now he is off to college and I miss him terribly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy g. Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 No, he is the only vegetarian here. It's just the whole fact that he is changing that has me shaken up. Who would have thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
at the beach Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) He must have liked what he ate so much over the weekend that he's decided to keep eating it. I have a vegetarian 15 yo girl. I know all about having to check for animal byproducts in everything. I have felt like she will never eat meat again, but your post makes me wonder if she, too, will someday just reconsider. Edited January 17, 2012 by Violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-rap Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Wow, convicted when he was three? That is...incredible! I don't think my three-year-olds would have had enough education/understanding yet to even know what it was about. Perhaps he didn't either? And now that he has finally tasted meat, he realized it's not so bad afterall?:) On a different note, I know of many people who have gone back and forth on that issue throughout their lives, including me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simka2 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Since I have meet your ds and can attest that even in the most tempting of barbecue establishments, he eats veggie, this is indeed a change. ;) Of all the possible teenage transformations...this one sounds pretty good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Did he have a bad reaction? I went off meat for only 2 months and when I went back on I was sick, really sick, for I think 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-mex Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Wow, convicted when he was three? That is...incredible! I don't think my three-year-olds would have had enough education/understanding yet to even know what it was about. Perhaps he didn't either? And now that he has finally tasted meat, he realized it's not so bad afterall?:) On a different note, I know of many people who have gone back and forth on that issue throughout their lives, including me! Sorry to be jumping in on the conversation, but I wanted to share my ds' experience as anedoctal. When he was a toddler, he began to dislike meats in any form. He preferred rice, carbs, fruits and veggies. Maybe tiny pieces of shredded cheese. I was so worried, I asked my pediatrician for help. He suggested not to fret and kids by that age know what they want to eat. Thus, my son began a diet of nothing but carbs, fruit, and veggies. It was frustrating to go out and eat knowing if there were no tortillas or bread on the menu... my son would starve. So I always brought it to the restaurant in advance. My MIL went ballistic when we traveled to see her 1-2x a year. She could not stand the fact ds disliked drinking milk, did not eat protein, and in her opinion, was a picky eater. Big battle. One time while we were visiting over Christmas -- ds was 8 years old -- he fell into a coma and then was dx'ed with a rare liver disease. The genetic metabolic specialist said most children die of this early in the first year of life. When they found out how selective ("picky") of an eater he was, they said it was common of those patients of this demographic to avoid protein as it tastes "yucky" to them. They as toddlers cannot explain why but they refuse to eat meat, eggs, dairy, or protein as their body tells them it is bad. Interesting. Not to suggest the OP's ds has the same issue, but yep, I can see a toddler being self-selective with his diet. Happens a lot, honestly. The term "picky" eaters comes to mind. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazakaal Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Did he have a bad reaction? I went off meat for only 2 months and when I went back on I was sick, really sick, for I think 2 weeks. This is what I was wondering. I had a friend who was vegetarian for a few years. When he wanted to make the switch back to meat, he had to do it very slowly so that he wouldn't make himself sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It's a good thing, as now he can have a well-rounded diet that includes animal proteins. Humans are omnivorous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 My first thought was how his digestive system handled it also. And Tex-Mex, wow! So, did he essentially save himself as a toddler by refusing those foods? What did your MIL say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy g. Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 I don't think he had bad reaction. He just realized where meat comes from, and decided that was. It something he wanted to be a part of. He has never been a picky eater at all. On the way to piano lessons today, he said, " Mom, I've been thinking about something." I thought he was going to bring up diet. No, he has decided that he wants to change his major from general business to accounting. He thinks that accountants are taken more seriously by future employers. I said,"You do understand that accounting is math." he said he did, but that every business needs access to a good accountant. You would all be so proud of me, I resisted the urge to scream,"WHO ARE YOU??" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyLady Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It's a good thing, as now he can have a well-rounded diet that includes animal proteins. Humans are omnivorous. You can have a well rounded diet without animal proteins. :D And I won't even get into whether or not humans are omnivorous issue. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It sounds as if most of his life people have *accommodated* his "conviction" on this and now that he's older and sees that it's a lifestyle he needs to take responsibility for on his own, maybe it's not as worth it and his convictions aren't as strong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarlaS Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Most of my kids at about age three disliked meat. My eight year old seems to eat it about every other day. I think he was just hungry and it was there. Upon eating it, he decided it was tasty. That's it. At least he knows he can eat veggie if he ever decides to stop eating meat again. He did it for years and years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6packofun Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yeah, my 3-year olds have been convicted about eating as much candy as they possibly can get their hands on and about the uselessness of bathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura in CA Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I really didn't see this coming. It reminds me of when he told me he wasn't going back to Interlochen Art Camp, because he decided he'd rather be a business major than a music major. What??????? He has been brought up to trust himself, and I know he is just doing his teenage job of growing up, but really..... Where is my child, and why is there some strange man living in my house? LOL. It's quite a ride, isn't it? :001_smile: Well....my first thought is that if this is the worst of your teenage problems....you got it made. :001_smile: :iagree: :D I had a strange man in my house, too. Now he is off to college and I miss him terribly! Oh, I know ... I'm trying to enjoy the wild swings now! Actually they're not "wild" -- just changing where he (ds16) may want to go to college -- from Scotland one month to Utah the next :confused: ... and changing his potential major ... and switching his ECs from cycling, track, and debate to a part-time job and working on cars ... :confused: It IS fun seeing them trying out all sorts of (tame!) stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekland Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 My guy was a semi-picky eater (not vegetarian) until he really started to hang out with his friends and headed to Jamaica. He now is willing to try a lot more things and will eat some spicy things. They may not be his preferences, but he eats them without complaints and is curious about trying new foods. Peers (not just family or friends, but true peers) and isolated situations can have an interesting affect on teens. Glad to see he's opening his mind. Teens are supposed to do that! And if that is the worst issue - congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in VA Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Amy, I read your post and my first thought was that he was aware of putting others before himself--that he didn't want to use the drinking water, that he didn't want to make the adult feel bad about not remembering ds is a vegetarian, and that he ordered at Subway to sort of cover up the fact he's a vegetarian so the adult wouldn't be reminded and again, feel bad. That's so mature! It isn't that he's expanding his palate or changing his choice of worldview (if being vegetarian could be called a worldview)--it's that he's so kind and thoughtful. Or did something else happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Where is my child, and why is there some strange man living in my house? No answers, just sympathy. I wistfully ask myself this question almost every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You need to nip this in the bud. First meat and then accounting!!!! If you don't take action you're going to wake up in the middle of the night to find that he's gone through your purse and balanced your checkbook TO THE PENNY. You need to show some tough love inthat house!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura in MI Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Well....my first thought is that if this is the worst of your teenage problems....you got it made. :001_smile: :iagree: And I have this thought almost everyday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammyla Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 He sounds like an interesting young man, who is growing in many ways. (My ds, came down one morning to pancakes...He ate them and said thank you...But then said..."Woman, I need meat! Snort:lol:") We both cracked up. Ds became convicted to become a vegetarian when he was 3 years old. In 12.5 years, he has never wavered-no bacon on christmas morning, no exceptions at his favorite restaurant. I've checked every vitamin and bullion cube for hidden animal products. Well, this weekend, he went camping with an out of state Boy Scout troop that he enjoys. When he got to the campsite, there was no hot water to reconstitute the vegetarian food he had packed. There was limited drinking water so he didn't feel like he could waste any of that on experimenting with his food to see if cold water would even work. In the past, he would have gone all weekend without eating anything except maybe a hamburger bun, or whatever else was available. Dh was also close enough that Ds could have called him, and he would have been happy to bring food. The thing is, Ds did not want to draw attention to the situation because it would have taken time and attention away from the purposeof the camp out. He also did not want to embarrass the adult who forgot to bring vegetarian food for Ds, so he just ate what they had, including meat for the entire weekend. On the way home, they stopped at subway, and Ds voluntarily ordered a roast beef sandwich, so it looks like this isn't a one time occurrence. I really didn't see this coming. It reminds me of when he told me he wasn't going back to Interlochen Art Camp, because he decided he'd rather be a business major than a music major. What??????? He has been brought up to trust himself, and I know he is just doing his teenage job of growing up, but really..... Where is my child, and why is there some strange man living in my house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkInTheBlue Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You need to nip this in the bud. First meat and then accounting!!!! If you don't take action you're going to wake up in the middle of the night to find that he's gone through your purse and balanced your checkbook TO THE PENNY. You need to show some tough love inthat house!!!:D LOL!!! :) With my 15 and 13 year old boys in the house I can just say, I know exactly what you mean. The 15 year old is SO much better in the last several months but for so long I had to wonder minute to minute which Will he was going to be. However, the 13 year old hasn't really hit anything like that. He's very happy go lucky. He threw me a curve ball about a month ago when he asked at what age he could have a girlfriend. I would have guaranteed he hadn't even noticed girls existed in "that way". Boys! Teens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy g. Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 He was being considerate of others, and that makes me proud, but it is still a big change from the self absorbed, math avoiding, vegetarian, musical prodigy that I used to know and love. As to what changed his mind, I assume he is just growing up.....sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You can have a well rounded diet without animal proteins. :D And I won't even get into whether or not humans are omnivorous issue. :) That's good, because we are all omnivorous by nature. It's simply more natural to eat some meat than to try to replicate the effect of doing so with vegetable proteins. Thus while vegetarians are certainly welcome to live however they like, the fact that the OP's son is again eating meat is an unqualified plus, nutritionally speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyLady Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 That's good, because we are all omnivorous by nature. It's simply more natural to eat some meat than to try to replicate the effect of doing so with vegetable proteins. Thus while vegetarians are certainly welcome to live however they like, the fact that the OP's son is again eating meat is an unqualified plus, nutritionally speaking. I beg to differ and so do the most recent health reports on health and nutrition, but you're entitled to your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) I beg to differ and so do the most recent health reports on health and nutrition, but you're entitled to your opinion. No, that's false. The best information available states, as expected, that some meat in a diet enhances longevity. We evolved to eat an omnivorous diet, and by no miracle that's what works best. :thumbup1: ETA: Here you go, for starters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism#Longevity A problem may arise when relying on pro-vegan sites for unbiased information. Many people become vegetarians or vegans because of ethical or religious beliefs, and those people can become a bit overzealous at times in support of their eating habits. Facts are facts. Edited January 17, 2012 by Iucounu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyLady Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 No, that's false. The best information available states, as expected, that some meat in a diet enhances longevity. We evolved to eat an omnivorous diet, and by no miracle that's what works best. :thumbup1: I could sit here all day and prove you wrong 100 times over, but you don't appear to be someone that would believe it so I won't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I could sit here all day and prove you wrong 100 times over, but you don't appear to be someone that would believe it so I won't bother. I don't think you'll get to 100 when you can't even get to 1. Good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyLady Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I don't think you'll get to 100 when you can't even get to 1. Good day Not to sound rude, but I've been studying veganism/health for 15 years now. I think I'm a *bit* more educated on the subject than you are. And I don't think Wikipedia is a very reliable source. Good day to you, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Not to sound rude, but I've been studying veganism/health for 15 years now. I think I'm a *bit* more educated on the subject than you are. And I don't think Wikipedia is a very reliable source. Good day to you, too. Wikipedia is actually as reliable as other major encyclopedias. People uncomfortable with information cited by Wikipedia tend to ignore the fact that it contains citations, and is not a primary source in itself. Right down at the bottom of the page I linked are some of those citations. You should make use of this feature-- it's often quite helpful. And without attempting to be rude, self-reports of expertise from an anti-meat person such as a vegan, based on presumably pro-vegan sources, accompanied by vague confrontational assumptions, against the weight of the evidence, aren't going to convince anyone except perhaps another vegan. Have you done peer-reviewed research? Because if not, no number of years of personal reading by you are worth as much as actual evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyLady Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Wikipedia is actually as reliable as other major encyclopedias. People uncomfortable with information cited by Wikipedia tend to ignore the fact that it contains citations, and is not a primary source in itself. Right down at the bottom of the page I linked are some of those citations. You should make use of this feature-- it's often quite helpful. And without attempting to be rude, self-reports of expertise from an anti-meat person such as a vegan, based on presumably pro-vegan sources, accompanied by vague confrontational assumptions, against the weight of the evidence, aren't going to convince anyone except perhaps another vegan. Have you done peer-reviewed research? Because if not, no number of years of personal reading by you are worth as much as actual evidence. If you say so. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iucounu Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If you say so. :) Yes, I already have. And exactly one of us has provided actual information supporting what they say. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Girls, girls, you're both pretty!! (that's a line from the movie Megamind in case you didn't know) Does this thread really have to turn ugly? It doesn't have to be so serious. :chillpill: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyLady Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Girls, girls, you're both pretty!! (that's a line from the movie Megamind in case you didn't know) Does this thread really have to turn ugly? It doesn't have to be so serious. :chillpill: That's exactly why I'm ending it and not posting 1000 links to support my argument. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KungFuPanda Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 :lurk5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan in KY Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I ate a vegetarian diet for a year when I was 21. Then I smelled a hamburger cooking and had an overpowering desire to eat it. :) I never looked back.... mmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommyfaithe Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ds became convicted to become a vegetarian when he was 3 years old. In 12.5 years, he has never wavered-no bacon on christmas morning, no exceptions at his favorite restaurant. I've checked every vitamin and bullion cube for hidden animal products. Well, this weekend, he went camping with an out of state Boy Scout troop that he enjoys. When he got to the campsite, there was no hot water to reconstitute the vegetarian food he had packed. There was limited drinking water so he didn't feel like he could waste any of that on experimenting with his food to see if cold water would even work. In the past, he would have gone all weekend without eating anything except maybe a hamburger bun, or whatever else was available. Dh was also close enough that Ds could have called him, and he would have been happy to bring food. The thing is, Ds did not want to draw attention to the situation because it would have taken time and attention away from the purposeof the camp out. He also did not want to embarrass the adult who forgot to bring vegetarian food for Ds, so he just ate what they had, including meat for the entire weekend. On the way home, they stopped at subway, and Ds voluntarily ordered a roast beef sandwich, so it looks like this isn't a one time occurrence. I really didn't see this coming. It reminds me of when he told me he wasn't going back to Interlochen Art Camp, because he decided he'd rather be a business major than a music major. What??????? He has been brought up to trust himself, and I know he is just doing his teenage job of growing up, but really..... Where is my child, and why is there some strange man living in my house? Wow!! Just WOW. My 22 Yo dd has been a vegetarian since she was 3 as well. "Cats eat meat...but cats are meat", was her reasoning. :001_huh: Anyway, I don't think that would ever change....but other things have changed, such as she now LIKES to study...lol. They never cease to amaze us, do they? Faithe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sputterduck Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I ate a vegetarian diet for a year when I was 21. Then I smelled a hamburger cooking and had an overpowering desire to eat it. :) I never looked back.... mmmmmmmmm And did you get sick? I know I've asked this question twice in this thread, but I'm still shocked at how sick I got! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 My older dd felt very convicted from about 4 to 9 yrs old about not eating meat. She said she wanted to try sushi with fish instead of just veggies at 9 years old. Now, three years later she has also added chicken, turkey, and red meat. She still hasn't eaten any pork. She's always been very healthy - even those five years she ate vegetarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livetoread Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 We are vegetarians in our family and my son had never eaten meat - til he started going to Boy Scout campouts! Now he is decidedly not vegetarian. What is it about Boy Scouts?:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy g. Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 I blame the Boy Scouts too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-mex Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) And Tex-Mex, wow! So, did he essentially save himself as a toddler by refusing those foods? What did your MIL say? YES. Interestingly enough -- it was a "perfect storm" of back to back viral illnesses, ds trying to please grandma by drinking milk and eating everything on his plate (i.e. protein) while visiting her for the holidays though he thought it tasted horrid, and then what we thought was flu like vomiting for 24 hours. Took him to the ER for help as he could not hold down liquids and they gave him a prophylactic med to ease the nausea -- BUT in reality gave him an allergic reaction and made everything far worse. 6 hours later, he was back in ER in full seizures, animal like screams, and so sensitive to touch, they could not put in IV lines for saline. He was airlifted 200 miles from Southern NM to Albuquerque to a Children's Miracle Network Hospital where after they ruled out meningitis or Reyes Syndrome -- one pediatric neurologist recalled from his medical school days of a rare disease -- and lo and behold they stocked the $15,000 Ammonul med for it. But it was not approved for use by the FDA. We signed waivers not to sue the hospital. And the Ammonul and 2 rounds of dialysis helped - his heart and kidneys shut down 2x over the 12 hour period and we were told he may not make it out of ICU - and he was in a coma for a long time. We discovered later that many UCD children die as many doctors do not recognize the symptoms of this disorder. They gave the dx of a Urea Cycle Disorder - Partial OTC. And we went to search for a specialist once home for more answers. Found a great support system at NUCDF and at one of the family/medical conference for this rare orphan disease, my MIL went with us to learn more. We met my specialist from UCLA and he greeted my MIL with the words, "Oh. So you're the reason your grandchild was diagnosed." She normally was an opinionated know-it-all MIL from h@LL -- and for the first time, I saw her be quiet and look stunned by his comment. I loved that doctor! :lol: Later that weekend, MIL began to learn that the low-protein diet with lots of carbs, sugars, processed food, fruits, and veggies is a GOOD thing -- there was a dietician telling all of us. I think the ax was buried that weekend after many years of her giving me grief over this issue. She then became our biggest supporter with going OVERBOARD with low-protein cooking for her only grandchild. She died this past summer from cancer and I will miss her greatly. But oh man, it took the heavens to move for this woman to be convinced her grandchild's diet is fine, thank you very much. LOL ;) Edited January 17, 2012 by tex-mex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex-mex Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You need to nip this in the bud. First meat and then accounting!!!! If you don't take action you're going to wake up in the middle of the night to find that he's gone through your purse and balanced your checkbook TO THE PENNY. You need to show some tough love inthat house!!!:D :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Fairy Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You've got an amazing boy on your hands. :001_wub: He sounds mature, thoughtful, and flexible about the nonessentials--all this at age 12! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amy g. Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 He is 15 now. It was 12 years ago that he stopped eating meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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