Melinda Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Jared (about to be 5) has gone through Saxon K and 1 since January. Is there something that would be more appropriate for a kid who wants to race through learning math and gets frustrated when we cover things he already knows repeatedly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen500 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 it's a mastery program. I just add extra practice as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 Thanks! I just picked up Singapore 1a/b for him yesterday to try. We will see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggirl Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I always let my ds test out of the first 8 tests. As long as he got 90% or higher, we went to the next test. Generally, the first 40 lessons of Saxon are all review. The first 8 tests cover the first 40 lessons. Thus, he only had to do 80 lessons to complete a "year." I did always have him do all the investigations. I think Saxon is a great elementary program. We used it through *most* of 7/6 then switched to Chalkdust. My son did Chalkdust Pre-Algebra in grade 4, and Algebra I in grade 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reya Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Jared (about to be 5) has gone through Saxon K and 1 since January. Is there something that would be more appropriate for a kid who wants to race through learning math and gets frustrated when we cover things he already knows repeatedly? Singapore or EPGY, absolutely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Singapore. :) After the first year consider adding Challenging Word Problems and the Intensive Practice books. DD uses IP in lieu of the workbook; the problems are more engaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I am still having Algebra sem. 2 issue, I want to transfer dd, b/c Apex is tough. But noone will take her , am still trying Keystone. Any other online programs. That will accept her first sem. from K12/Apex and offer second sem. for summer. Jeannette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 Singapore or EPGY, absolutely! I looked on the abbreviation sticky and couldn't figure it out...what is EPGY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I looked on the abbreviation sticky and couldn't figure it out...what is EPGY? Education Program for Gifted Youth. It's run by Stanford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fractalgal Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I started my (just turned) 5 yo son out with Saxon 1 and Singapore 1A last fall. He did great. I recommend Singapore 1A and 1B for your son. Singapore encourages creative ways to look at problems, and I found it enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue in MD Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 We have always done Saxon (K - 7), but a friend, who was also a longtime Saxon user, recommended Living Textbooks. Her daughter is loving Algebra I using this program. I plan on borrowing it and taking a look to compare it to the Saxon program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Another vote for Singapore here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Bay Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Another vote for Singapore with Challenging Word Problems. We did adapt Saxon for my eldest for 3 grades because she didn't want to switch. She did do Singapore 6, too, so didn't need pre-Algebra (tested out of it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I agree! And you might look at Miquon, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 I agree! And you might look at Miquon, too! I've skimmed Miquon at our local educational store. Is it confusing to teach? I am not very math-minded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenna Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 We use and love ALEKs math. They sent me a link for a month free trail and told me I could share. PM if you would like the link. -Just realized your son is 5-oops ALEKs starts at 3rd grade (I think) so it won't be good right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay in Cal Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yep... we moved to EPGY after even Singapore got to be too repetitive for my ds. It's great because they move totally at thier own pace based on how many incorrect answers they get on a type of problem. It also seems to jump into using more algebraic thinking early on and uses more complex mathematical terms that I haven't seen in other curricula at such an early age--it uses terms like commutative, associative and distributive properties, intersection vs. union of sets, etc. This year he has done two grade levels worth of EPGY (2nd and 3rd grade, about to start on 4th grade) and it has been wonderful. Definately for "math heads", it isn't a program with lots of cute animations or funny animals, just math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reya Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I've skimmed Miquon at our local educational store. Is it confusing to teach? I am not very math-minded. Nope, but the lab annotations are really important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yep... we moved to EPGY after even Singapore got to be too repetitive for my ds. It's great because they move totally at thier own pace based on how many incorrect answers they get on a type of problem. It also seems to jump into using more algebraic thinking early on and uses more complex mathematical terms that I haven't seen in other curricula at such an early age--it uses terms like commutative, associative and distributive properties, intersection vs. union of sets, etc. This year he has done two grade levels worth of EPGY (2nd and 3rd grade, about to start on 4th grade) and it has been wonderful. Definately for "math heads", it isn't a program with lots of cute animations or funny animals, just math. That sounds like a really neat program. I am going to check it out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyJo Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 My second son is 7. We school year round, so he's in the middle of second grade now. We do a little bit of everything. He's working in Singapore 3B, Miquon Yellow, Key to Fractions book 2, and the Singapore 2 Challenging Word Problems. And he occasionally watches some Math-U-See videos and plays with the rods, though we don't do the MUS workbooks. He does the MUS online drill for practicing math facts. (Shhh! He thinks it's a game.) His verbal skills are not on par with his math skills, so we skip the word problems in the Singapore 3B workbook and use the Challenging Word Problems at a lower level. We got him Key to Fractions because he finds fractions interesting, so he asked for it. (I don't think fractions are presented clearly enough in Singapore or Miquon, so I would have added it eventually even if he hadn't asked.) I just let him loose with Miquon; he just moves along at his own pace and requests help when it's needed. He picks up on concepts very fast, but if he doesn't get much practice in the concepts, he'll forget stuff equally fast. Multiple programs work great for him because he covers the material multiple times but in different ways so that he doesn't get bored with it. Also, sometimes he hits a wall in one book, so he focuses on another book for a while. I usually just tell him to do math, and he chooses which book and how much he wants to do, which is always more than I would have told him to do. Except for the MUS videos, which I don't find necessary, these are all really inexpensive, so buying two years worth of math per year in several programs isn't as painful as it could be. All this to say, choose one or more programs, and adjust as necessary. :) My rule of thumb for choosing a curriculum is to try the most inexpensive one that I think might meet our needs first. If I'm wrong, I can try the more expensive option without being out much money. But if it works, I've saved a bundle over the course of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay in Cal Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Also, don't be put off immediately by the cost... they have easy and generous financial aid. As I well know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share Posted June 14, 2008 Also, don't be put off immediately by the cost... they have easy and generous financial aid. As I well know!! Thanks for mentioning that. I took one look at the cost and definitely do not want to spend $500 per quarter just on math per child. I will have to look into the help they offer and see if we qualify.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Thanks for mentioning that. I took one look at the cost and definitely do not want to spend $500 per quarter just on math per child. I will have to look into the help they offer and see if we qualify.:)Also check with the GT coordinator for your local public school system. If the system is part of EPGY's Schools Program, you may be able to purchase directly from it at a substantial discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay in Cal Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Yeah, me either! They are very helpful on the phone, you can call and ask how much it would be for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melinda Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share Posted June 14, 2008 It also says on there that if a child is under 6, they need testing done to be eligible for enrollment. Is this program worth going through testing for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuff Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Do you mind telling how much you make? And how much you pay? I know that's a person question you probably don't want to share. We make about $55, so I'm guessing we're not going to qualify for much. Do they just reduce your cost? Or is it a loan you have to pay back? That program looks about perfect for us, but I don't think I could justify $500 to my husband. And we'd have to get real creative to come up with it. Right now we're using Rod and Staff. We've used BJU and Ray's in the past (he's only in 2nd, I've hopped around a bit trying to find something that works well for him) I love their reading and english, but this math is too much repetition for him. And way too slow. Boring. I'd love to have something that moved at his pace, taking time when he needed and rushed ahead when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay in Cal Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Well, that is a great description of what we love about EPGY! The financial aid isn't a loan, they just reduce the tuition. Ours comes out to about $70 a month (so... $210 instead of $500 per quarter). I do make less than $55, but you might just try it! It is a stretch for us, but beats anything else we've tried hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuff Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 OK, Thanks. I'm going to have to think and pray about this. Ugh! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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