Is anybody else having attitude problems with your middle schooler?

[wy_kid_wrangler04]

My dd is in 7th grade. She is 12 1/2. I am so tired of her attitude towards school- :cursing: -- especially when she gets her work wrong :banghead:. I can not be the only one right? What do you do? I am so close to putting her in the Christian school in town. They use ACE- I despise ACE. I know I wont but that thought goes through my mind so much lately its bothering me. Any ideas? Suggestions? :rant:

[Mallory]

Yeah, this is no news for many of us ;) There are all kinds of threads about this age and attitudes :glare:

 

We have several fun/social things planned each week, but they are only allowed to do the "thing" if school is done up to that point. And I don't teach students who are moping or pitching a fit or just being a pain. They are asked to leave the school room until their attitude is better. So thier school doesn't get done, so they don't get to do the fun thing.

 

Here is one of the things I have tried lately-

 

Out of the blue a few months ago I sat down the boys and asked them to make a list of the things they really enjoyed doing that the little kids don't get to do (stay at home on Thurs morning for free time -read this as play video games, spend the night at grandpas on Wen-they switch each week, go to scouts, tumbling class, art class, and so on.). Then I had them make a list of things my sis gets to do that they don't.

 

Then we talked about why big kids get to do more things, and how they could get to do some of the things that sis does. In other words that to get more fun things you have to complete your not as fun things. Finally we made a list of things that they are responsible for each week, and I made it very clear that those things must be done before the things on the fun list will be done.

 

It didn't take many missed classes or fun mornings before they were much better at completing school cheerfully. And even though I had already been yelling about it and they'd missed some activites because of thier attitudes, making clear lists does seem to help them get thier cheerfullness back quicker.

[elegantlion]

My ds is 13. When I get attitude about schoolwork I try to determine why I'm getting attitude that time. Is it a bad hormonal day? Is he having a growth spurt? Is it truly just words flying out of his mouth because is brain is short circuiting that day? If it is I take a moment to sympathize then remind him, again, that we need to focus. I try to give him words and action to combat the sometimes chaotic turmoil I see happening in him as he grows and changes.

 

If it is determined to just be basic stubborness or laziness we pause and have a character building moment. :D Mommy gets to remind him WHY we do schoolwork, HOW it will pay off in college (I tell him I'm not going to be there with him in college), and WHAT he needs to do at that exact moment to correct whatever it is. I use my own negative character traits he inherited as the model. Like, let me tell you what will happen down the road if you take this type of behavior into adult life.

 

I don't take Fine and an eye roll as an answer.

[PeterPan]

Well if it's any consolation (which it is to me), most people say their dd's became angels at age 14. I've decided I don't need to toss her now and miss the good stuff later. :)

 

Have you tried soaking your feet and having girl time together? I have a little recipe for a foot soak. It's not pretty, but it sure feels good! My dd and I both did it last night. Girl bonding time helps smooth the other parts of the day and gives you something positive together. Think about it. They're getting older and the whole tenor of your day together changes. So foot soak, that is my advice today. Not sure about tomorrow. :)

[kristavws]

Sorry, but I actually laughed out loud when I read the title of your post. Middle schooler = attitude problems! My daughter is now 21, but boy do I remember those days, and not fondly, I might add. The good news though, is that this too shall pass, and the aliens will bring back the sweet daughter that you gave birth too.

 

Krista

[Granny_Weatherwax]

Right now?? No. I am very lucky, he's pretty even tempered and loves to do his work. Who knows about next week, though.

 

If you asked about my high school senior than you would receive a different answer. :)

[SilverMoon]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

*composing self*

 

Yes. I would definitely say yes. :001_smile:

[Guest]

Oh, yeah. Mine argues at the least little thing. For example, "Why do I have to brush my teeth?" Every.Little.Thing.

 

This too shall pass, right?

[angela in ohio]

A few ideas that have worked here, maybe some bit will be helpful:

 

First, I explain to my dc the concept of a "line" that moves between us as they get older. Eventually, there will be no child-adult line, but when they are little the line is very close around them. I tell them that the problems in adolescence are with the struggle over where the line is. This gives us vocabulary to discuss the issue. So it they go to far, I tell them that they have stepped over the line. We talk about their increasing freedom and resonsibilites, and how the line moves based on their maturity level. So if they act very immaturely, we talk about how I have to move the line back toward them a bit, and vice versa.

 

For example, I have a dd with a fabulous sense of humour, dry and witty just like I enjoy. ;) She will make jokes that are very funny, but sometimes they are a bit more than someone her age should say, and so I just wink at her and say "line" and she knows. It saves us having a big thing about it.

 

Second, I don't ever argue with a child. This has been a wonderful rule. When there is a disagreement, we decide if we are rational enough to discuss it nicely, and if not, we take some time to get there and then have the conversation. I say to a dc who 'comes back at me' or gives me attitude when I tell them to do something (or not to do something,) "we will not talk about it in this tone, do you want to change your tone and talk about it now, or do you want to wait until later?" If they need to wait, they still need to do what I said, but later we can discuss it for future situations. They will usually settle right down, though, so that we can talk nicely at the moment. They see that there is no benefit to getting mad, because I am willing to hear them out if they can just say it politely.

 

About school work specifically...

 

The first thing I do is to check my 'model.' Am I modeling that school work is necessary and enjoyable? If I am crabby about having to get out the books, or if I have an attitude of "not sure why we're doing this," so will me dc. If I am not also reading and learning, they won't want to do it, either.

 

When a dc gives me attitude about schoolwork, I tell them that I don't deserve that. (Dh backs me up by telling them frequently how lucky they are that I take the time to homeschool them, too, which helps.) There is no reason that I should have to put up with their attitude. I let them know that it is annoying and stressful to me, and we talk about how we should make other people feel. I tell them that if they can't turn it around on their own, as the mature young people they are, I will have to help them by punishing them, because one way or the other, they have to learn how to accomplish things responsibly with a good attitude. They will usually turn themselves around, but if not, I follow through.

 

I have too few years left to waste on a bad relationship with my teens. I expect civil behavior and take calm, immediate, predictable action if I don't see it. This restores our relationship quickly, keeps us from fighting, and keeps me from being the bad guy all the time.

[LisaKinVA]

Don't get me started. He's 11. UGH. And, he won't be an angel until he's 14? :banghead:

[Marla]

Have you tried soaking your feet and having girl time together? I have a little recipe for a foot soak. It's not pretty, but it sure feels good! :)

 

My dd and I have soaked our feet together so I'd love your foot soak recipe. Thanks!

[Night Elf]

My dd12 has a bad attitude sometimes. The excuse I hear most often is "I forgot" when it comes to Math, which until today has been her only homework besides her few outsourced classes that don't have much homework. This is one reason I'm really bumping up her work. I feel she isn't challenged and isn't being properly prepared for high school. So my independent learner is moving back to the dining room table for daily work. She admits that most of the time it's laziness, and I guess admitting it is a good thing. She also says she is making an effort at doing better with her schedule and that so far it's an unsuccessful effort but she won't give up. I don't know what to make of that one. :tongue_smilie:

[Hedgehog]

My dd and I have soaked our feet together so I'd love your foot soak recipe. Thanks!

 

:iagree: Yes please! Sounds good!

[Hedgehog]

Another thought, along the lines of a foot soak :001_smile:

 

DH and I take turns taking all our kids out separately. So one weekend he will take DD11 and I will take DS5; the following weekend he will take DD9 and I will take DD2; the weekend after that he will take DS5 and I will take DD11.. you get the picture. It gives all the kids the opportunity to spend time with us alone and a space to talk about anything they want. Cell phones NOT permitted!

 

We go out for coffee, mostly (hot chocolate in the case of the littles), but it could be anything or anywhere, provided it gives us time to be with the child and talk. It helps to keep the communication lines open.

[smilesonly]

A few ideas that have worked here, maybe some bit will be helpful:

 

First, I explain to my dc the concept of a "line" that moves between us as they get older. Eventually, there will be no child-adult line, but when they are little the line is very close around them. I tell them that the problems in adolescence are with the struggle over where the line is. This gives us vocabulary to discuss the issue. So it they go to far, I tell them that they have stepped over the line. We talk about their increasing freedom and resonsibilites, and how the line moves based on their maturity level. So if they act very immaturely, we talk about how I have to move the line back toward them a bit, and vice versa.

 

For example, I have a dd with a fabulous sense of humour, dry and witty just like I enjoy. ;) She will make jokes that are very funny, but sometimes they are a bit more than someone her age should say, and so I just wink at her and say "line" and she knows. It saves us having a big thing about it.

 

Second, I don't ever argue with a child. This has been a wonderful rule. When there is a disagreement, we decide if we are rational enough to discuss it nicely, and if not, we take some time to get there and then have the conversation. I say to a dc who 'comes back at me' or gives me attitude when I tell them to do something (or not to do something,) "we will not talk about it in this tone, do you want to change your tone and talk about it now, or do you want to wait until later?" If they need to wait, they still need to do what I said, but later we can discuss it for future situations. They will usually settle right down, though, so that we can talk nicely at the moment. They see that there is no benefit to getting mad, because I am willing to hear them out if they can just say it politely.

 

About school work specifically...

 

The first thing I do is to check my 'model.' Am I modeling that school work is necessary and enjoyable? If I am crabby about having to get out the books, or if I have an attitude of "not sure why we're doing this," so will me dc. If I am not also reading and learning, they won't want to do it, either.

 

When a dc gives me attitude about schoolwork, I tell them that I don't deserve that. (Dh backs me up by telling them frequently how lucky they are that I take the time to homeschool them, too, which helps.) There is no reason that I should have to put up with their attitude. I let them know that it is annoying and stressful to me, and we talk about how we should make other people feel. I tell them that if they can't turn it around on their own, as the mature young people they are, I will have to help them by punishing them, because one way or the other, they have to learn how to accomplish things responsibly with a good attitude. They will usually turn themselves around, but if not, I follow through.

 

I have too few years left to waste on a bad relationship with my teens. I expect civil behavior and take calm, immediate, predictable action if I don't see it. This restores our relationship quickly, keeps us from fighting, and keeps me from being the bad guy all the time.

 

Hi Angela,

I find your description of your relationship with your dc interesting.

What was the philosophy of your approach to discipline when your dc were little? Do you have parenting "how-to" book titles that you wouldn't mind sharing from your wall of books?;)

Thank you....

[Daisy]

Yes, and I'm sick of it. Everything out of her mouth has a tone.

 

Grrr.

[mcconnellboys]

Gee, don't ya love seventh grade? Hormones run amuck - and it doesn't help matters when Mom's going through menopause and her hormones are running amuck too. At least they usually don't crash into each other... but boy, when they do....

[elegantlion]

Gee, don't ya love seventh grade? Hormones run amuck - and it doesn't help matters when Mom's going through menopause and her hormones are running amuck too. At least they usually don't crash into each other... but boy, when they do....

 

(I'll finish that sentence)

...Dad ends up wishing he had worked late. :lol:

[mcconnellboys]

ROFL!!!!! And I'll up that ante with: and he refuses to answer his phone while at work and turns off his cell, too, after the third time in 15 minutes that Mom has called screaming in his ear....

[PeterPan]

Haha to the dad working late! :)

 

Well here's my foot soak recipe. I used the ingredients from a foot soak product (Johnson's? I forget) someone had mentioned in a thread ages ago. They sell that product in little packets on amazon, so alternately you could just buy it. As I haven't, my version might not be as good, who knows. So with that said, here goes!

 

3 tablespoons borax

1 drop iodine

2 tablespoons bran

1 tablespoon baking soda

 

Put that in the dishpan and fill with hot (to preference) water. It feels tingly at first, but then it's just very relaxing and good. I've been wanting to add a drop of lavender to make it smell nice too. The bran is flakey and floats, so if that bugs you, whiz it up or something first. If I make it as little gift packets for Christmas (thinking about it, haven't done it yet) I certainly will.

 

Give it a try and see what you think! Or search the boards for foot soaks and see what you find.

[PeterPan]

ROFL!!!!! And I'll up that ante with: and he refuses to answer his phone while at work and turns off his cell, too, after the third time in 15 minutes that Mom has called screaming in his ear....

 

Oh man Regena you're making my day!!! Now I know nothing we've experienced as been to that point, hahahaha!!!

[mcconnellboys]

Honey, you're too young to understand. I've been thinking about my Mom lately - she had both my sister and I out of the house by the time she was 47, before she had to undergo her own hormonal rollercoaster ride. It's one of the things they should warn you about when you're thinking of putting off having children until you're already old.....oy.....

[mcconnellboys]

I musta missed something.... Why are we soaking feet? Are we kicking mouthy children?

[Susan in KY]

I musta missed something.... Why are we soaking feet? Are we kicking mouthy children?

:lol::lol::lol:

[Tohru]

I musta missed something.... Why are we soaking feet? Are we kicking mouthy children?

 

:lol:

 

And the husband working late, turning off his cell-phone... :lol:

 

Attitude: Yep, 13yo. Apathy. Seriousness. Contrariness.

Sometimes I just can't help but bust out laughing because I remember being a teenager. He looks at me and says, "What?!" and I smile, shake my head and tell him that I love him.

 

When it comes to school work, I figure if he's in a mood, he's not learning anything, not going to retain anything....so um, I let it go. :blush: :leaving:

It's not that bad, at least he writes or does something constructive and generally comes back to the assignment the next day.

[Veritaserum]

Attitude? Nooooo. :001_rolleyes:

 

Door slams and mood swings around here. Good times. (Not.)

 

But some days are great. :)

[angela in ohio]

Hi Angela,

I find your description of your relationship with your dc interesting.

What was the philosophy of your approach to discipline when your dc were little? Do you have parenting "how-to" book titles that you wouldn't mind sharing from your wall of books?;)

Thank you....

 

Our discipline policy when they were younger was the one most likely to make people freak out on a message board, so I won't go into that. ;) We are past that point with all of them now, anyway. :001_smile:

 

I think "Heart of Anger" is a great book. It speaks to parents who wish to avoid the angry heart many teens display. Many people read it when they have teens, which is fine, but I think it is better to read it earlier. I've read many Christian parenting books over the years, but there isn't really one I'd particularly recommend besides that one.

 

Most of my strategy just comes from having a zero tolerance policy for anything that annoys me. :D I call it the "too old and mean to put up with cr@p parenting policy." Also, I talk, talk, talk with them, which is the opposite of what my parents did, and spend tons of time with them. No big philosophy behind it. :001_smile:

[elegantlion]

ROFL!!!!! And I'll up that ante with: and he refuses to answer his phone while at work and turns off his cell, too, after the third time in 15 minutes that Mom has called screaming in his ear....

 

:lol::lol:

[Gratia271]

What I have noticed is the emotional response to constructive criticism and grading feedback. My oldest DD is not typically emotional, and it is exasperating some days!

[NineChoirs]

Set up a video camera and threaten to post their temper tantrums online :D.

 

It is unorthodox but we realized our "tweens" never acted like that except for in front of us.....

 

I asked my 12yo ds why that was and he said "because that would be embarrassing" :glare:. I had a lightbulb moment, now everytime one of kids starts throwing an all out hissy fit, out comes the phone video camera :lol:

 

Not too many hissy fits around here anymore, they usually end up dissolving into giggles when they see the phones come out. Great way to diffuse the situation because everyone usually ends up happy and laughing. :001_smile:

[NineChoirs]

BTW & FTR - We would never actually post videos of our kids online.... :D

[Marla]

Haha to the dad working late! :)

 

3 tablespoons borax

1 drop iodine

2 tablespoons bran

1 tablespoon baking soda

 

Thanks so much! We soakd our feet in Epson salt so I'll try your recipe. I'm curious as to why iodine is in the mixture?

[smilesonly]

Our discipline policy when they were younger was the one most likely to make people freak out on a message board, so I won't go into that. ;) We are past that point with all of them now, anyway. :001_smile:

 

I think "Heart of Anger" is a great book. It speaks to parents who wish to avoid the angry heart many teens display. Many people read it when they have teens, which is fine, but I think it is better to read it earlier. I've read many Christian parenting books over the years, but there isn't really one I'd particularly recommend besides that one.

 

Most of my strategy just comes from having a zero tolerance policy for anything that annoys me. :D I call it the "too old and mean to put up with cr@p parenting policy." Also, I talk, talk, talk with them, which is the opposite of what my parents did, and spend tons of time with them. No big philosophy behind it. :001_smile:

 

Oh-got it. I am familiar with The Heart of Anger. To each his own! :)

Thanks for replying! :)

[mcconnellboys]

Every day is great, LOL, it's just that sort of greatness of a too young wine... We'll be able to appreciate it much more after it matures. Time, perspective and breathing make all the difference....

[DianeJM]

I had to chuckle at your question - sorry - I don't know of anyone who ISN'T having attitude problems with a middle schooler, to some degree.

 

I have an advantage, though, in that this is my 4th child, and it's way different than it was with my first one, because I know by experience that he WILL come out the other end a relatively normal person. THANK YOU GOD!!!

 

Been there, done that... have 3 T-shirts so far, lol.

 

Chin up! Get your helmet on, do the work. You (and your child) will be fine.

[nelewaf]

My 12 yo dd has a good attitude, but I think its because she is so much happier here than private school, (she was in ps and ps k-6), so I guess its more an attitude of appreciation for her. :) (that I'm hs'ing her).

 

BUT, if we were still at private school , I know her attitude would be much different, as it was back in 6th grade :confused:, esp. comparing herself to all her peers, etc. Now, that's gone :tongue_smilie:.

[Mosaicmind]

This thread gave me a much needed good laugh. DS/almost 13 and in the 7th grade is exactly as many of you have described. What happened? My once loving and compliant child is now a roller coaster of moodiness that I am about to shut down!!! I can't handle it some days and just tell him to go to his room and don't come out, he eventually ends up asleep in his bed for hours.

 

I want to take some time during Christmas break and address some of these problems with him but I want to do it in a way that isn't confrontational. I know that he is trying to navigate going from being a little kid to an adolescent and that can be treacherous waters. But, I want to start off the new year with a new attitude and fresh start for both he and I (I am dealing with my own set of issues with homeschooling).

 

I don't want to just throw him back into school, which is what he wants, because I know that won't solve his problems. He has tried out ps 3 different times, all with disastrous effects. I guess to him going back looks like it would be easier because of the anxiety at home but I want him to learn to resolve conflict and not run from this.

 

I think we all need a little prayer, some foot soaking, and a drink :)

[johnandtinagilbert]

Yup. My 13yo boy is driving me nuts. He has recently entered "prison mode." He's lost all privileges, any extras; I even took away everything from his bed and reduced his clothing options. The boy thinks everything wrong in the world is somebody else's fault with absolutely no contrite spirit, no willingness to repent, no grace for the little people, nothing but an attitude that the world is against him and he just doesn't understand why. Mr. Angry essentially.

 

This is different that his brother who just a real whiner for a year and his sister who was Miss Mouthy for a few short months.

 

I'm sure we'll get through it, especially since I've handed him over to his dad entirely, but my oh my, I don't like that one year of major hormones. They think b/c growing is hard that they can just behave however they want to....um, no.

 

Hang in there. When the hormones slow down, they do get better. The eldest is actually becoming pleasant, getting his work done (mostly) and showing initiative around the house. THANK GOD!

[johnandtinagilbert]

I had to chuckle at your question - sorry - I don't know of anyone who ISN'T having attitude problems with a middle schooler, to some degree.

 

I have an advantage, though, in that this is my 4th child, and it's way different than it was with my first one, because I know by experience that he WILL come out the other end a relatively normal person. THANK YOU GOD!!!

 

Been there, done that... have 3 T-shirts so far, lol.

 

Chin up! Get your helmet on, do the work. You (and your child) will be fine.

love this post!

[Matryoshka]

My dd is in 7th grade. She is 12 1/2. I am so tired of her attitude towards school- especially when she gets her work wrong . I can not be the only one right? What do you do? I am so close to putting her in the Christian school in town. They use ACE- I despise ACE. I know I wont but that thought goes through my mind so much lately its bothering me. Any ideas? Suggestions?

 

All I can say is :banghead: :banghead: :cursing: :willy_nilly: :crying: :angry::svengo:

 

I have TWO 12 1/2 yo girls. I'm pretty much ready for the funny farm. I refuse to send them to middle school, but oh boy, high school is looking better and better every day!!!

 

My only consolation is that my 10yo hasn't hit the hormones yet. She's still her incredibly intense willful self, but still a little girl. Her friend that is only 2 months older is almost as annoying as my 12yos, and if I had three of these at once.... oh, I can't even contemplate it....

 

Please, those who have BTDT, keep telling us it gets better!! And hopefully they'll get there before their little sister hits the fan?? :scared:

[5LittleMonkeys]

Love this thread. My oldest has just turned 13 today and I have been experiencing many of the things all of you have mentioned. My biggest complaint with her is her complete disinterest in anything. She doesn't want to do family stuff anymore (acts like its beneath her), does most of her chores without me having to ask but doesn't do them to the standards she used to (then gets indignant when I ask her to re-do them), and has become completely apathetic towards her schoolwork.

 

We recently switched over to an interest based method for science and history and had plans to start it in Jan. She has chosen a couple of topics and had seemed to be very interested in doing them but when I questioned her on if she is excited about them she said she wasn't really but that she knew she had to choose something so that I would be happy. :glare: I know that she really does like the topics she chose because I have caught her reading about them already! (Astronomy and Norse Mythology) I feel like she believes having her fingernails ripped off would be less painful than allowing me to see her excitement about something.

 

I try to be patient with her because I remember when I was a teen. I put my poor mother through h--- and back with my snotty attitude and apathy. At least my dd doesn't talk back and get snotty...she has just kind of disconnected herself...I miss her terribly some-days even when she is sitting at the same table with me.

 

Now, my next oldest is about to turn 12 and she is a whole different kind of creature. Very emotional and verbal. Whiney, snotty, mouthy, crying, yelling, melting down, making mountains out of molehills, falling apart if the sky isn't the right color, ridiculously happy one second and near death from sadness the next...I wouldn't mind missing her once in a while.:tongue_smilie:

 

I've got no advice at all but here is a :grouphug: for you. A :grouphug: for all the rest of you and I'm going to give myself one of these.:chillpill:

[Storm Bay]

Well if it's any consolation (which it is to me), most people say their dd's became angels at age 14. I've decided I don't need to toss her now and miss the good stuff later. :)

 

Have you tried soaking your feet and having girl time together? I have a little recipe for a foot soak. It's not pretty, but it sure feels good! My dd and I both did it last night. Girl bonding time helps smooth the other parts of the day and gives you something positive together. Think about it. They're getting older and the whole tenor of your day together changes. So foot soak, that is my advice today. Not sure about tomorrow. :)

Wow, I want to live where those people live:D. My aunt told me that in her experience, 14 is the lowest point in human development. I'm not sure how much of it is a familial thing, but that's exactly what happened with my eldest (and it's continuing into 15.) Of course, we tend to reach menarche between the ages of 13-15, and so combining that with the teen brain could play a significant factor. It doesn't help that puberty doesn't end with menarche, either, and that it is a slower than average process in our family.

[johnandtinagilbert]

I wanted to pop in and encourage. My son, now 15, is looking brighter all the time. We had a ROUGH 13-14 time. I was ready to cry regularly, but something in the maturity package kicked in and dare I say....he can be pleasant. :) It does come around. We just have to hang in there....says the mom with a 13yo nightmare (who was just sweet and gave me a kiss). :grouphug:

[wy_kid_wrangler04]

My dd12 has a bad attitude sometimes. The excuse I hear most often is "I forgot" when it comes to Math

 

Do you have my dd at your house??? You can keep her until she is 20 :D

 

 

Gee, don't ya love seventh grade?

 

:glare:

 

Set up a video camera and threaten to post their temper tantrums online .

 

 

:lol:

 

All I can say is :banghead: :cursing: :crying: :svengo:

 

I have TWO 12 1/2 yo girls. I'm pretty much ready for the funny farm. I refuse to send them to middle school, but oh boy, high school is looking better and better every day!!!

 

 

 

Oh. my. :grouphug:

[wy_kid_wrangler04]

I wanted to pop in and encourage. My son, now 15, is looking brighter all the time. We had a ROUGH 13-14 time. I was ready to cry regularly, but something in the maturity package kicked in and dare I say....he can be pleasant. :) It does come around. We just have to hang in there....says the mom with a 13yo nightmare (who was just sweet and gave me a kiss). :grouphug:

 

 

Huh?? So she wont be this emotional monster forever??? What is this pleasant you speak of??? :confused:

[johnandtinagilbert]

Huh?? So she wont be this emotional monster forever??? What is this pleasant you speak of??? :confused:

It's the land beyond the dark valley that is called 13 or 14. The land of milk and honey. :D OK, so maybe not that good, but at least he's quit that darn cryin' and whinin'!

[wy_kid_wrangler04]

It's the land beyond the dark valley that is called 13 or 14. The land of milk and honey. :D OK, so maybe not that good, but at least he's quit that darn cryin' and whinin'!

 

 

Ugh. Yes.

 

Me: Do your math Sierra

 

Sierra: YOU HATE ME :crying: :angry:

 

Me: :001_huh: :blink: :confused::willy_nilly:

 

 

 

<Sigh> Unfortunately when we get to this peace you speak of, I have another daughter waiting in the wings, she is 9 :svengo:

[johnandtinagilbert]

Ugh. Yes.

 

Me: Do your math Sierra

 

Sierra: YOU HATE ME :crying: :angry:

 

Me: :001_huh: :blink: :confused::willy_nilly:

 

 

 

<Sigh> Unfortunately when we get to this peace you speak of, I have another daughter waiting in the wings, she is 9 :svengo:

 

LOL! I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry?!?!

[wy_kid_wrangler04]

LOL! I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry?!?!

 

 

Exactly!!!!! LOL- Shhhhh she is having a good day today though :D (so far!)

[abrightmom]

:001_smile: I love this thread. Had a good laugh because my oldest is only 8!! What do I know?! I thought I had it bad with a four year old daughter who is a Walking Attitude, Will & Temper in a Little Bod. Guess I should count my blessings while I can!

 

:grouphug: to you all. :001_smile: