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I can give you one idea for a tortured path of finding texts or resources to just get you started: go to a good art school university website, and find the course you're wanting, and then find a listing of what texts are required for that class...I got an answer from e-mailing a nice professor about an architecture class one time.

 

Just a thought,

LBS

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I think the best way would be to get involved in historical re-enactment. Learning to recreate these outfits is the best way to find questions about why things were done the way they were.

 

Books like:

Tudor Tailor

Medieval Tailor's Assistant

anything by Janet Arnold

 

Oooh, I could go on and on ;) For the period of time covered by the SCA (600AD ish to 1600AD) she could ask here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SCA-Garb/ and here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Authentic_SCA/ The latter group had a thread about costuming books last week, so search back in the archives.

 

Then you guys have Civil War re-enactments and such. Go along to events and talk to anyone wearing pretty clothes. Everyone likes to talk about their pretty clothes :)

 

 

Rosie

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Ya'll have given some great ideas. It sounds like we're going to have to start from scratch on this one. I was hoping there would be something already made up! :nopity:

 

I suppose the place to start would be to have my dd try to narrow down exactly what she's wanting to learn about. This could be a huge area to cover!

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Sorry, I've been busy all week and didn't see this. On my shelf:

 

The History of Underclothes by C. Willett and Phillis Cunnington (European from Medieval times.)

English Women's Clothing in the Nineteenth Century by C. Willett Cunington. This is a must have for anyone interested in writing a novel set then and there, because it give a year by year description.

Corsets and Crinolines by Nora Waugh

 

To see what street people wore in London back then, Victorian London Street Life by John Thomson has lots of b&w photos.

 

Sorry, I don't have a course and it's a bit biased since once upon a time I was working on a novel that started in Victorian England before moving across the Atlantic. I didn't find anything quite as detailed for American women's clothing or for men's clothing. You may wish to do a search on your library network, because there are books out there that do histories of working class clothes, sometimes called costume, etc, etc.

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Ya'll have given some great ideas. It sounds like we're going to have to start from scratch on this one. I was hoping there would be something already made up! :nopity:

 

 

Look on the bright side, you'll learn so much more that way ;)

 

Rosie

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Also, you may wish to define as you design your class: Do you wish to study Costume or Fashion or clothing? Theater department or Art department (college divisions)? Include some basic fashion sketch/illus? Do you wish to emphasize fashion as a decorative art or the social history? Is this an art class or a home ec class?

 

I'm putting these questions out there, because so many folks suggested sewing, which defines your class....an art history class would get one kind of high school credit and a home ec (sewing, tailoring) would be another kind, I believe. Maybe you could do half a credit of history and half a credit of art(doing illustrating, design and sewing)? I'm not up on exactly how to assign high school credit, not there yet, sorry.

 

James Laver has a concise history of costume and fashion as does Bronwyn Cosgrave....both are listed in college syllabi as the text. One is about $25 and the other $16 or so, on Amazon.

 

Here is a link to a free online class for self directed study called "The History of Fashion and Dress."

 

http://www.costumes.org/Classes/fashiondress/thr355main.htm

 

It appears to be geared more towards costuming in theatre, but has a structure that may be useful to you.

 

Hope some of this helps,

LBS

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There's a book called "the History of Underclothes"???? wow -- who'd a thunk it?

 

Clothing historians and novelists ;). Perhaps movie makiers, too.

 

Yeah, I bet they are even clothing some of you too. :laugh: Well, let’s hope so, we all need underclothes, right? (just being silly)

 

In all seriousness, this is an interesting thread. Sometimes I think my younger dd has a flair for fashion, she can cut up a piece of fabric and make various play clothes for her stuffed animals in an instant. She has a strong artistic side and it will be fun to see where it leads her. I need to get my mother over here to teach her to sew; I’m worthless in that area.

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Yeah, I bet they are even clothing some of you too. :laugh: Well, let’s hope so, we all need underclothes, right? (just being silly)

 

In all seriousness, this is an interesting thread. Sometimes I think my younger dd has a flair for fashion, she can cut up a piece of fabric and make various play clothes for her stuffed animals in an instant. She has a strong artistic side and it will be fun to see where it leads her. I need to get my mother over here to teach her to sew; I’m worthless in that area.

 

Your dd and mine must be related. Of course, they don't sew beautiful clothes, but they do cut things up and make clothes for suffed animals. However, mine spent a few years drawing dance costumes and clothes over and over, too. Also, they make model magic people and wardrobe design comes into play there as well.

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