Oxford World In Ancient Time Set?

[Saille]

"Times", that is. Bleargh.

 

I've read all I can find on the boards about using these for Logic Stage history. They're ridiculously expensive, and my library doesn't have them. I own the Suzanne Strauss Art books AND Kingfisher. The library has Gombrich and some Hillyer.

 

So, why am I still asking?

 

The primary sources. From what I can see, in addition to the primary sources volume, there are primary sources seeded throughout the texts, as well...within the amazon preview of the Roman book I see art familiar to us from Lively Latin, as well. The narrative seems very accessible. We don't have great used book stores here, and I'm thinking that by the time I pay shipping on each individual used book, I might be better off just buying the set new with my B&N discount. I have time to plan, as we're still a year away from Logic Stage. Also, the Medieval and Early Modern set looks like it would be good for two years of instruction.

 

I could use some opinions. Are any of you using these?

[sleepymommy]

I'm not much help here, but I do remember someone on these boards having them and liking them. Maybe they'll chime in soon.

[Amira]

We're using this set this year, based on recommendations on this board. I hesitated, because it's by far the most expensive thing I've ever purchased for homeschooling, and we're on a really tight budget this year. But it's been wonderful. I've been so happy with history this year and I think these books have been worth every penny. I'll be using the next set for history the next two years.

 

My boys are 9 and 10 and they've both enjoyed reading these books, and so have I. I'm pretty familiar with ancient history and I think these present ancient history well and in an interesting way. I especially like that for every book one of the co-authors is an expert in her or his field, so you don't get the questionable material that's in so many history books for children.

 

BTW, these sets often go on sale at Amazon in December. I picked up the Medieval and Early Modern set last month for next year much cheaper than I could have gotten it in the summer. And if you're hoping to use your educator discount at B&N, it doesn't apply to these because they're textbooks (I tried that last year).

[Corraleno]

I own both sets, and I think they are definitely worth the money! You know how sometimes you design your "dream curriculum" in your head, and then you set out to find something that's close, but you never really get everything you want in one package? Well these two Oxford sets exceeded my wildest expectations for a "dream history curriculum." The material is so rich and interesting and provides a different perspective from most history texts. The writing is really accessible and engaging, they're beautifully illustrated, and even my hates-to-read DS11 has really enjoyed them.

 

If you don't mind piecing together the set, you could probably pick up most of them for around $12-15 each including shipping. I bought both sets new on Amazon when I saw them on sale, but having seen them I would still have paid the full price new, because these are the kind of books we'll have in our home library forever. I just wish they'd done a set for Modern!

 

Jackie

[Saille]

Maybe they still will! You know what I don't understand? Why would someone sell these used for twice as much as a new set? I've been seeing them online all morning. So annoying!

 

How good a sale are we talking? I tend to have to spend my hs money as it comes in, or lose it in the household budget.

[Nicole M]

I've found them super cheap at www.alibris.com, like $3 / book. I recently had a peek at them, and liked what I saw, but I still prefer History Odyssey (the K12) for a spine. The Oxford books seem like a great resource for further reading about specific topics.

[PeterPan]

I have a whole bunch of them that I've collected, all almost like new, and I didn't pay very much for any of them. Maybe keep watching the used options? If you got one, then you'd have a better sense of whether you want more. I hadn't thought to try them now, so I don't know if they'd be good for this age. But boys and girls are different too. I was planning on saving them for later, simply because I thought my dd might just go "Oh" lol...

[Saille]

The Spielvogel is the only one I can find an image of. Do you have a link for the K12? Amazon's listing has very little info.. Did you feel that the Oxford texts lacked a cohesive narrative?

 

Off to look at the individual copies on Alibris.

[Saille]

I've found them super cheap at www.alibris.com, like $3 / book. I recently had a peek at them, and liked what I saw, but I still prefer History Odyssey (the K12) for a spine. The Oxford books seem like a great resource for further reading about specific topics.

 

Nicole, I am looking, and I think you're seeing the study guides, which do seem to be running around $3. I found The Ancient American World for $7, and a few for $12-$15, but China, Egypt and the Near East aren't coming up for me. Thank you, though. I may be able to cherry-pick them over the next year, if I'm watchful.

[Nicole M]

The Spielvogel is the only one I can find an image of. Do you have a link for the K12? Amazon's listing has very little info.. Did you feel that the Oxford texts lacked a cohesive narrative?

 

Off to look at the individual copies on Alibris.

 

Amazon is a little confusing. Here's the ISBN for the first volume: 1931728534. I am on my way out the door, otherwise I would try to find more information for you.

 

As for the narrative in the Oxford texts, I didn't really sit down with them. But perhaps Swimmermom3 can answer that question (I was looking at them at her house, and honestly, she was more interesting than the books, though I did love looking through her things! :D).

[Saille]

Amazon is a little confusing. Here's the ISBN for the first volume: 1931728534. I am on my way out the door, otherwise I would try to find more information for you.

 

As for the narrative in the Oxford texts, I didn't really sit down with them. But perhaps Swimmermom3 can answer that question (I was looking at them at her house, and honestly, she was more interesting than the books, though I did love looking through her things! :D).

 

LOL, I have that problem at friends' houses, too! Very distracting!

 

I should have clarified. I did find the listing, but they don't have images or editorial reviews posted. I wondered if you'd looked at a preview somewhere else. Off to search!

[swimmermom3]

Saille, the major question for consideration in using this series is, "How do you like your history served up-chronologically or geographically?" There is a strong bias on this board for chronological study. If you fall in this category, the series may not be for you as it presents history geographically, then chronologically.

[Saille]

I'm wondering if I can take a framework, like History Odyssey, and assign pages from Oxford instead of the readings from Story of Mankind, etc.. Which is why I'd need the whole set.

 

ETA: the "Sources" book is also the master index, so it would be too hard to search vocabulary terms and work backwards in my planning. At least, that's my theory right now.

[Corraleno]

Saille, the major question for consideration in using this series is, "How do you like your history served up-chronologically or geographically?" There is a strong bias on this board for chronological study. If you fall in this category, the series may not be for you as it presents history geographically, then chronologically.

 

Actually, I don't think the Oxford series is any more geographically divided than most world history texts. For example, Unit 1 of Spielvogel's Human Odyssey covers the same time period as The World in Ancient Times (Prehistory to about AD500), and the unit is divided into separate chapters each covering a different geographic area: Near East/Egypt, India, China, Greece, and Rome. The Oxford series has individual volumes on each of these areas that correspond to the chapters in Spielvogel, plus additional volumes on Mesoamerica* and Primary Sources.

 

K12's Human Odyssey Vol 1 Parts 1-3 covers the ancient world, but the focus is almost entirely on Egypt/Greece/Rome. The only coverage of non-Mediterranean cultures is a single chapter that combines India & China, followed by a section on religion, which covers Buddhism, Hinduism, Conficianism, and Judaism. There are a couple of chapters at the end of Part 3 on the spread of Christianity.

 

So, comparing The World in Ancient Times to Spielvogel and K12's coverage of the same period, all three cover the main geographic areas separately, but the Oxford series provides almost 1600 pages of information (including many primary sources) compared to around 190 pages in Spielvogel and about 430 pages in K12 (Part 4 of K12 Volume 1 is Medieval).

 

The same is true with Oxford's Medieval series. Spielvogel Human Odyssey Units 2 & 3 cover AD 400-1800, with individual chapters on South & SE Asia, Africa, East Asia, Europe, etc. Oxford's Medieval and Early Modern World series (AD400-1800) has 3 geographic volumes (Asia, Europe, & Africa/Middle East) as well as thematic volumes like Age of Empires, Age of Science & Revolution, Age of Exploration, and the Primary Source volume.

 

Jackie

 

*The Ancient American World is the only volume that covers a single geographic area from prehistory to about 1500, instead of stopping at about 500AD. I do think it makes sense to consolidate Mesoamerican history in one volume, rather than arbitrarily splitting it into two, with one included in each series.

[Corraleno]

Did you feel that the Oxford texts lacked a cohesive narrative?

 

My original plan was to use K12's Human Odyssey as a spine, supplemented with the Oxford books. However, my kids found K12 pretty boring compared to the Oxford books, and I found that it wasn't really adding anything, so we dropped it. I don't miss having a "narrative" because the information in the Ancient Times books is so interesting and paints such a vivid picture of life in those times, that I find we are getting a more personal and "real" understanding of ancient cultures, as opposed to someone just telling us what it was like, KWIM?

 

(Note: I'm not bashing K12 Human Odyssey ~ as middle school history textbooks go, I think it's excellent. I just think World in Ancient Times is so much deeper and richer. It's like a "living books" history program all in one neat package.)

 

Jackie

Edited January 20, 2010 by Corraleno

[Amira]

Saille, the major question for consideration in using this series is, "How do you like your history served up-chronologically or geographically?" There is a strong bias on this board for chronological study. If you fall in this category, the series may not be for you as it presents history geographically, then chronologically.

 

We're using these books chronologically. It took a little planning at the beginning of the year, but it's not been difficult for us to use them chronologically rather than geographically.

[Corraleno]

How good a sale are we talking? I tend to have to spend my hs money as it comes in, or lose it in the household budget.

 

I think I got the Medieval set for around $100 during a special sale about 18 months ago. It's currently $131 on Amazon with free shipping, which works out to about $19/volume. That's a pretty good price, considering you'd have to find used ones under $15 to beat that price once you add the usual $4 shipping.

 

I think I paid about $200 for the Ancient World set. You can currently get new sets on Amazon from private sellers for $225 including shipping. That's $25/volume. You could probably put together a used set more cheaply, but even if you were able to find all 9 volumes used for around $19-20 each including shipping, you'd only save $45-55 and it would be a lot of hassle. $225 may seem like a lot of money, but that's for a beautiful 9 volume hardback set of reference books. And you could always resell them when you're done (assuming you could bear to part with them!).

 

Jackie

Edited January 20, 2010 by Corraleno

[Amira]

How good a sale are we talking? I tend to have to spend my hs money as it comes in, or lose it in the household budget.

 

The Medieval set was about $100 for weeks and weeks at the end of 2009. The Ancient set was a little more than that, but not much. Someone else on the board mentioned that it was on a similar sale the previous November/December.

[Matryoshka]

I've found them super cheap at www.alibris.com, like $3 / book. I recently had a peek at them, and liked what I saw, but I still prefer History Odyssey (the K12) for a spine. The Oxford books seem like a great resource for further reading about specific topics.

 

:iagree: To all of this. I am going to use the K12 Human Odyssey as the spine, and use the Oxford books as supplementary reading. I bought a number of the Oxford books, including both Primary Source books, from Alibris at reasonable prices. The rest were in our interlibrary system. But then my librarian asked me if there was anything I wished they had - and they bought TWO sets! One for reference and one to loan out. I love my library!

[swimmermom3]

Actually, I don't think the Oxford series is any more geographically divided than most world history texts. For example, Unit 1 of Spielvogel's Human Odyssey covers the same time period as The World in Ancient Times (Prehistory to about AD500), and the unit is divided into separate chapters each covering a different geographic area: Near East/Egypt, India, China, Greece, and Rome. The Oxford series has individual volumes on each of these areas that correspond to the chapters in Spielvogel, plus additional volumes on Mesoamerica* and Primary Sources.

 

 

Good points, Jackie. Let me clarify by adding that if you wanted to use SOTW as a narrative (which it sounds like you don't) it could be more work. One of the reasons I chose this set was because while my older son enjoyed SOTW, he didn't enjoy jumping back and forth between cultures. I also appreciate the prehistory, South Asia, and Far East books for the reasons Jackie mentioned

 

I use the series with a combination of TOG and HO and don't find it difficult to do it that way. We used the entire The Early Human World along with with teacher's and student's guides, and supporting science, art, and literature resources to create our own prehistory unit. You could easily do without the extras since those topics are covered in varying degrees in Ancient World. Also since early farming and settlements are covered in this volume for each geographic region, I don't always use the corresponding chapters on prehistory in the other volumes due to time constraints.

 

There is some crossover. For example, the first section in HO covers First Civilizations and Farming. Lessons 1 and 2 look at the Fertile Crescent. The subject matter ties in to Chaps. 19 and 20 in Early Human World. You could also choose to read chaps. 1-3 in The Ancient Near Eastern World at this time. Lesson 3 pertains to early Europe and monuments. This corresponds to Chaps. 16 and 21 in Early Human World. You could cover Chap. 22 in EHW as part of a prehistory unit or since it's about early farming in Africa, you could read it during Lesson 20 in HO on Ancient Africa.

 

We then used the entire The Ancient Near Eastern World but split it in two around our study of Ancient Egypt. I can share how we did that in a pm. If I were to do it again, I would make some changes.

My ds is not as fond of the series as Jackie's kids are. We took a break for Egypt because I had so many other resources that my son really enjoyed. I just picked out a couple of chapters that offered unique information.

 

I thought the information on ancient Kush/Nubia was slim and supplemented it.

 

We have just started on the Ancient South Asian World and are skipping the chapters on neolithic times again for the sake of our schedule and because we have already covered similar information in the prehistory book.

 

This is more information than you wanted to know I am sure. I like the books well enough and the supporting materials are useful. Do I think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread? Debatable. Three years of the same format? <<<snore>>> ( I believe there is a series for modern times for 8th grade and will locate it.)

 

My set will be for sale in the spring when we are done with it.:D

[AngelBee]

Are these secular? (Sorry if someone already said :D )

[swimmermom3]

Are these secular? (Sorry if someone already said :D )

 

They are public school texts so they are definitely secular.

[AngelBee]

They are public school texts so they are definitely secular.

 

Oh :D Thanks!

[Nicole M]

I use the series with a combination of TOG and HO and don't find it difficult to do it that way. We used the entire The Early Human World along with with teacher's and student's guides, and supporting science, art, and literature resources to create our own prehistory unit. You could easily do without the extras since those topics are covered in varying degrees in Ancient World. Also since early farming and settlements are covered in this volume for each geographic region, I don't always use the corresponding chapters on prehistory in the other volumes due to time constraints.

 

 

WhaaAAAt? You have those in your house and you didn't show me?! You were holding out, woman! I saw those at Amazon after I got home from our visit, and was very curious, indeed!

 

This is more information than you wanted to know I am sure. I like the books well enough and the supporting materials are useful. Do I think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread? Debatable. Three years of the same format? <<<snore>>> ( I believe there is a series for modern times for 8th grade and will locate it.)

 

 

We're just finishing the renaissance (part one of volume 2, Human Odyssey) so I would love to have a look at this next set and I could not find any mention of them anywhere. You've seen them? Linkie, please.

 

:D

[swimmermom3]

WhaaAAAt? You have those in your house and you didn't show me?! You were holding out, woman! I saw those at Amazon after I got home from our visit, and was very curious, indeed!

 

 

We're just finishing the renaissance (part one of volume 2, Human Odyssey) so I would love to have a look at this next set and I could not find any mention of them anywhere. You've seen them? Linkie, please.

 

:D

 

Ooops! Must have slipped my mind. Guess you will just have to come back.:D

 

The Student Study Guide contains brief summaries of each chapter and exercises that cover working with primary sources, sequence of events, time lines, critical thinking, drawing conclusions, comprehension, and mapping. These exercises are very brief since each chapter is on one page front and back. The answers of course are in the Teaching Guide.

 

The Teaching Guide gives an overall unit outline. A unit may cover 3-4 chapters and have a uniting theme such as Origins of South Asian Civilization. The Unit outline includes objectives, primary sources covered, the big idea, geography connection, timeline, unit projects, research report, literature connection, writing strategies, and a vocabulary list. Each chapter then has 4 pages: 2 for the teacher with connections to other disciplines, 1 worksheet, and 1 test. There are also BLMs for graphic organizers. Personally, if I were only going to purchase one of them it would be the Teaching Guide.

 

Oxford University Press has their links to their Pages from History series locked. There is a series for 20th century history that looks like this. There are also books in the same set for American History. I believe they are all geared towards 9th grade which means I would probably use them for 8th grade history. There are teaching guides as well. What I can't tell is if there is a gap from the Medieval to Early Modern World series or not as I only own the first three books in that series.

[Nicole M]

Ooops! Must have slipped my mind. Guess you will just have to come back.:D

 

The Student Study Guide contains brief summaries of each chapter and exercises that cover working with primary sources, sequence of events, time lines, critical thinking, drawing conclusions, comprehension, and mapping. These exercises are very brief since each chapter is on one page front and back. The answers of course are in the Teaching Guide.

 

The Teaching Guide gives an overall unit outline. A unit may cover 3-4 chapters and have a uniting theme such as Origins of South Asian Civilization. The Unit outline includes objectives, primary sources covered, the big idea, geography connection, timeline, unit projects, research report, literature connection, writing strategies, and a vocabulary list. Each chapter then has 4 pages: 2 for the teacher with connections to other disciplines, 1 worksheet, and 1 test. There are also BLMs for graphic organizers. Personally, if I were only going to purchase one of them it would be the Teaching Guide.

 

Oxford University Press has their links to their Pages from History series locked. There is a series for 20th century history that looks like this. There are also books in the same set for American History. I believe they are all geared towards 9th grade which means I would probably use them for 8th grade history. There are teaching guides as well. What I can't tell is if there is a gap from the Medieval to Early Modern World series or not as I only own the first three books in that series.

 

You are amazing! When's the next train? I'm coming down!

 

I looked at the "history in documents" books that you linked, and it seems like they do cover the period beginning with Encounters in the New World, then proceed through the colonial period, the revolutionary war and right on through the 20th century. I can't remember if the Medieval & Early Modern set has an enlightenment book, but I'm guessing yes. (They do have the scientific revolution covered, and maybe the enlightenment is touched on there?) At any rate, it doesn't seem like there is much of a gap.

[Truscifi]

Can someone list the individual titles in the set? I'm going to try keeping an eye out for them over the next year or so. :)

[swimmermom3]

You are amazing! When's the next train? I'm coming down!

 

I looked at the "history in documents" books that you linked, and it seems like they do cover the period beginning with Encounters in the New World, then proceed through the colonial period, the revolutionary war and right on through the 20th century. I can't remember if the Medieval & Early Modern set has an enlightenment book, but I'm guessing yes. (They do have the scientific revolution covered, and maybe the enlightenment is touched on there?) At any rate, it doesn't seem like there is much of a gap.

 

Nicole, I think there are two sets. There is the American history set and then the 20th Century set. I've seen all the titles for the American but not the 20th century. Hmmm. Unless the 20th Century books are for 8th grade and the American for 9th. I don't know why I can't find a list of all the volumes for the 20th Century set. Ugh! Frustration! However, I have all the confidence in the world that inquiring minds on this board will soon have some answers.;) What is great is that again there is the emphasis on primary sources.

[Matryoshka]

Can someone list the individual titles in the set? I'm going to try keeping an eye out for them over the next year or so. :)

 

The World in Ancient Times Series

 

The Early Human World

The Ancient Near Eastern World

The Ancient Egyptian World

The Ancient South Asian World

The Ancient Chinese World

The Ancient Greek World

The Ancient Roman World

The Ancient American World

World in Ancient Times: Primary Sources and Reference Volume

 

The Medieval and Early Modern World Series

 

The European World 400-1450

The African and Middle Eastern World 600-1500

The Asian World 600-1500

An Age of Empires 1200-1750

An Age of Voyages 1350-1600

An Age of Science and Revolution 1600-1800

The Medieval and Early Modern World: Primary Sources and Reference Volume

 

 

 

If anyone has the individual titles from the more Modern series, I'd love to know what they are!

[swimmermom3]

The Early Human World

The Ancient Near Eastern World

The Ancient Egyptian World

The South Asian World

The Ancient Chinese World

The Ancient Greek World

The Ancient Roman World

The Ancient American World

The World in Ancient Times: Primary Sources and Reference Volume

 

Teaching Guide to the Ancient Roman World

 

Student Guide

[swimmermom3]

Oh rats, Erin! You have faster fingers.

[swimmermom3]

Here is what I have come up with after the first two series from Oxford University Press. I suspect we are looking at them for 8th grade and up.

 

Pages of History series

Imperialism: A History in Documents

The Vietnam War

The Depression and the New Deal

The Cold War

The Civil War

Modern Japan

Colonial America

Encounters in the New World

World War I

The Gilded Age

World War II

Hitler and the Nazis

The American Revolution

The Bill of Rights

Twentieth Century China

 

The first link has the other books on the page. I apologize to the op for digressing. I thought it would help to have all the info on one thread for future reference.

[Saille]

My set will be for sale in the spring when we are done with it.:D

 

OH! You tease! How cruel!

 

 

No complaints about digressions. This is a gold mine. I'm so happy with this thread!

[amyco]

I have these two complete sets. For Ancients, I bought the entire set new on Amazon for a fairly good price. For Medieval, I bought used from here and there and I'm not as happy. One is paperback (not sure how I missed that fact in the description), and several are "California" editions...no doubt the exact same text, but still.

 

We use them mostly for reference/extra info. I have found the Ancients primary source volume more useful than the Medieval one so far, but haven't used it as much yet. There is a little thrill for me in knowing we're examining excerpts from primary sources!

 

I agree that they were well worth the price. They are a nice size, easy to use, nice fonts, good mix of text and graphics on each page, and much good information at a middle school level.

 

Here's hoping they do put out a modern era set!

[Corraleno]

Here is what I have come up with after the first two series from Oxford University Press. I suspect we are looking at them for 8th grade and up.

Wow, Lisa thanks for digging those up!!! :hurray:

 

I found 3 more volumes on Amazon and added them to the list below:

 

US History

Encounters in the New World

Colonial America

The American Revolution

The Bill of Rights

The Struggle Against Slavery

The Civil War

The Gilded Age

The Depression and the New Deal

The Cold War

The Vietnam War

 

Europe & US

The Industrial Revolution

Imperialism

World War I

World War II

Hitler and the Nazis

 

Asia

Modern Japan

Twentieth Century China

 

It looks like they are mostly focused on the U.S., but I think they'll be the perfect complement to Hakim when we do American History in 9th, and the others will combine nicely with K12's Human Odyssey volume III, which I plan to use for Modern in 8th. Looks like I'm all set for history for 6th-9th! :thumbup:

 

Jackie

[Nicole M]

As long as we've strayed so far from the Ancient World, I might as well throw out here that I recently learned about another Oxford series, The History of the United States, for adults:

 

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=oxford+history+of+the+united+states+series&x=0&y=0

 

My oldest has been reading about Winston Churchill (esp. regarding Netanyahu's fashioning himself after him), so I hit up a professor friend of mine for a title about WWII that might interest my son. He suggested Freedom From Fear by David Kennedy, which is part of the series. It's arranged in a way that makes it easy to pick out the bits about periods or people that interest you.

[Corraleno]

As long as we've strayed so far from the Ancient World, I might as well throw out here that I recently learned about another Oxford series, The History of the United States, for adults:

 

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=oxford+history+of+the+united+states+series&x=0&y=0

 

My oldest has been reading about Winston Churchill (esp. regarding Netanyahu's fashioning himself after him), so I hit up a professor friend of mine for a title about WWII that might interest my son. He suggested Freedom From Fear by David Kennedy, which is part of the series. It's arranged in a way that makes it easy to pick out the bits about periods or people that interest you.

 

Wow those look great! They are very well reviewed, I would love to read the whole series myself. Thanks for posting those!

 

Jackie

[swimmermom3]

Jackie and Nicole, thank you for adding these to the resource list.

 

Jackie, a question for you: would you use the The World in Ancient Times Primary Sources volume as a stand alone resource?

 

I wanted another opinion before I suggested doing that here. SWB recommends using the Jackdaws materials but I am thinking this is a much more affordable and satisfying option, at least for ancient times. The entries are self-sufficient and we've used some of the ancient poetry for copywork. Swimmer Dude's older brother is taking an acting class and is going to work with Dude on creating a play out of "A Fishy Story" on pg. 83. The possibilities are endless, I think.

Edited January 22, 2010 by swimmermom3
wrong curriculum name

[Corraleno]

Jackie, a question for you: would you use the The World in Ancient Times Primary Sources volume as a stand alone resource?

 

I wanted another opinion before I suggested doing that here. SWB recommends using the Jack Draw materials but I am thinking this is a much more affordable and satisfying option, at least for ancient times. The entries are self-sufficient and we've used some of the ancient poetry for copywork. Swimmer Dude's older brother is taking an acting class and is going to work with Dude on creating a play out of "A Fishy Story" on pg. 83. The possibilities are endless, I think.

 

I totally agree! I think the Primary Sources volumes would be excellent supplements even if someone is using a different curriculum. I bought a few Jackdaws packages second-hand and was not impressed ~ especially for that kind of money! The only advantage of Jackdaws compared to the Oxford Primary Sources volumes is that Jackdaws includes actual facsimiles of the documents, whereas the Oxford books are text only, no illustrations. But other than that I think they are a much better resource, and much cheaper!

 

Another primary sources book I really like for Ancients is The Ancients in Their Own Words, a beautifully illustrated, large-format hardback I picked up at Barnes & Noble for about $12 with my educator's discount card!

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?EAN=9781435107243ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264126826&sr=1-1

 

Jackie

[KarenNC]

:lurk5: so that I can find this again when I have a chance. I lucked out and got two volumes from Edward R. Hamilton, the discount bookseller online, for $3-5 each. I'm on the lookout for the rest to use along with the k12 Human Odyssey (of which I have the first volume that I found used).

[kangato3]

Just thought you'd like to know that the Medieval and Early Modern World is down to $128 at Amazon. (44 % off retail). I've had it on my saved list for awhile, and finally took the plunge at this price. Unfortunately, the World in Ancient Times set keeps going up.

Louise

[sleepymommy]

Can anyone tell me if this is around the same price as in the Dec sales? I don't really need modern yet, but would consider getting it for later if this is as low as it goes.

[swimmermom3]

I have 3 of the books so far for the Middle Ages to Early Modern. I picked up each book in "new" condition for under $10 including postage. That's $70 or a little more for a set. Just a thought.

[nmoira]

 

Can anyone tell me if this is around the same price as in the Dec sales? I don't really need modern yet, but would consider getting it for later if this is as low as it goes.

I paid $54 for the Medieval and Early Modern World set during the 2008 December sale.

[mindygz]

I love finding old threads that are packed with info I want! (Sadly I don't have anything to add but I'm commenting so I can find this for myself later!)

[nansk]

...I'm commenting so I can find this for myself later!)

Thanks. I usually subscribe to threads I want to find later, but this way, you are bumping useful threads for the rest of us. :)

 

 

A question for those reading this thread - is it possible to set up a "watch" on an item on Amazon? i.e. is there any automated way I can be notified of a price drop?