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Now this isn't on how to take notes/annotate while reading a text - more on motivation. We are watching the super star student DVD from tcc and the first week he was doing fine. But I checked his notebooks and - he didn't continue past week one:angry:. Sooo - I was thinking - is it appropriate to treat this like an assisgnment and give grades. We talked about what the Superstar student dvd said - notes in the text and (very important) outside the text (he was starting to outline in a notebook). So maybe I could 1. give him a weekly assignment grade

2. give extra points on the chapter tests for good notes

3. take points off test for poor notes or notes not done

What would you do? The problem is he can slide with high 80's/low 90's without note taking. He is being lazy - I want to cultivate this habit while he is home before he goes off to college in 2 years.

 

Sorry for the long post and thanks for any advice you have!

 

Barb

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While I agree that learning to take notes is essential before being sent off to college, I don't think that I would take points away for "poor notes."

I think some kids need to take more detailed notes, while others may not need to.

 

Perhaps you could stress the importance of good-notetaking each time you assign him his daily reading.

 

Another thinkg I feel highschoolers should be very comfortable with is outlining, and I know it's something I need to work on more with my daughter.

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Yes, I agree about the taking points away - too negative! I do emphasize this daily,but . . .he hasn't. Thats why I am leaning on having his notes (yes, I agree that outlines are good) be a weekly assignment. I won't read every bit, but I can tell if it is a half hearted job or not. At the end of a quarter or semester all the weekly outline/notes grade could equal a test or something?

 

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(or whatever time period makes sense), that there will be an essay or quiz with short essay answers that will be "open book." Here we mean "open notebook."

 

Your prep is to pick a day or day(s) assignment(s), outline it or take notes on it yourself and ask a question(s) about the material.

 

Maybe I have a logic flaw here, but his notes should be what he thinks he will need under such circumstances, and he will prepare accordingly. It can be assessed in whatever way you normally do such things.

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I am thinking it has to do with how good each kid's memory is. My son has an incredible memory, and even in college, he doesn't need to take notes. My 10th grade daughter has started taking notes this year (after watching Superstar Student and me reading WTM), and really likes it. We are doing a history book without study questions, so the notes are her study questions in a way. I don't even look at them, they are for her :)

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1. wanting to do better on his geography tests (mom made)....

 

When he realized he needed to learn how to study better to do better, then outlining chapters came in handy...and we went over how to outline....he'd been taking notes before but was writing to much of some ideas and not enough of others.

 

2. our long-running habit of notebooks...ala WTM for history and lots of other subjects ...he took a certain pride in writing about history esp, so he continued writing instead of outlining in the logic stage...

 

I don't grade his notebooks at all. He has his own desire to make them nice products. Maybe it's related to mom being a paper person.....

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Thanks for your replies! Yes, I do think that some kids have better memories then other (and my ds has a better memory than mine!). Also, I was jumping to conclusions a bit: He told me he tried other studying then outlining for week 2 and a combo this week. It is also the case that he is disorganzied and his history notes just may end up in the wrong notebook (trying to work on this organization stuff - half the battle is his messy desk!). I haven't checked his study habits this week - but it looks like he is trying to experiment at what works best for him. I think I need to stop interfering with that a while and see what happens. He has expressed a desire to get a bit higher grades and that may be his motivation!

 

Barb

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