rwalizer Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 If I use this in 9th grade, should I give it credit as an "Introduction to Logic"? Maybe .5 credits? I want to start ds in logic (he's never had any logic instruction) but I still would like to give credit on a transcript. Maybe I should start out with Fallacy Detective the first semester and then move on to some other text, like the Thinking Toolbox, the second semester for a full credit. Ds is not academically inclined and I don't want this to be a nightmare, but I also don't want to just spoon-feed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Wisc Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) If I use this in 9th grade, should I give it credit as an "Introduction to Logic"?Maybe .5 credits? I want to start ds in logic (he's never had any logic instruction) but I still would like to give credit on a transcript. Maybe I should start out with Fallacy Detective the first semester and then move on to some other text, like the Thinking Toolbox, the second semester for a full credit. Ds is not academically inclined and I don't want this to be a nightmare, but I also don't want to just spoon-feed him. After having done Traditional Logic I and II for 1 credit, I would say that both Fallacy Detective and Thinking Toolbox, done together, are worth no more than .5 credit. Jean Edited May 13, 2009 by Jean in Wisc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Agreeing with Jean. Do give credit, but make it appropriate; I'd award .25 credit for Fallacy Detective, or .5 credit for Fallacy Detective and Thinking Toolbox together. Enjoy your logic journey! Warmest regards, Lori D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy in MD Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 After having done Traditional Logic I and II for 1 credit, I would say that both Fallacy Detective and Thinking Toolbox, done together, are worth no more than .5 credit. Jean :iagree: I've only done Thinking Toolbox and The Art of Argument. AoA is cosidered by the authors to be only .5 credits. TT isn't anywhere close to AoA in coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 If I use this in 9th grade, should I give it credit as an "Introduction to Logic"?Maybe .5 credits? I want to start ds in logic (he's never had any logic instruction) but I still would like to give credit on a transcript. Maybe I should start out with Fallacy Detective the first semester and then move on to some other text, like the Thinking Toolbox, the second semester for a full credit. Ds is not academically inclined and I don't want this to be a nightmare, but I also don't want to just spoon-feed him. I gave my boys .5 credit for The Fallacy Detective and The Thinking Toolbox together, including lots of discussion on the side. If they hadn't kept bringing up things they had learned, and applying them to other situations, I might not have given credit even then. The books are fairly light and easy. You could easily finish both books in one school year doing only one chapter of each per week, or two chapters of the same book per week. If you read a chapter a day, you could finish both in one semester. (The chapters are no longer than 5 pages each.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 These books are more for 12 year olds than high school. They're good, though. You could maybe fold them into English under argumentation/rhetoric, but only as a small part of a stronger overall sequence of books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughing lioness Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Right. My older son did Intro Logic, Trad Logic I, about half of Trad Logic II, and a coop class that covered Fallacy Detective info. He also then had a political science coop class that emphasized rhetorical debates. I only gave him one credit for logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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